Trade Deadline Open Thread: Dotel-Davies is Done

Davies certainly doesn't excite me, but now that we can count down the number of minutes to the deadline, I'm more and more willing to settle for the package offered by Atlanta.  The birds of fortuity no longer seem alight on our shoulders.

Christina Kahrl : I don't think we need to get overly worked up over whether or not Octavio Dotel's stock has fallen or risen--keep your eye on the player, not the stage. He's the sixth-best Royals reliever this season, and more of an ex-famous person than the guy who handed Billy Wagner leads. For the Royals, this was a well-excecuted single-season rental for a player whose 2008 option (effectively mutual, since his team can nix his exercising his player option) they should have had zero interest in exercising. The timing would be impeccable, as Dotel's only just about to start getting into his appearances bonuses, which might bring him another million dollars or so this season. Four or five years of Davies under control, and what that could be worth, represents an excellent pay-off, but not to rip on the Braves, it was also a price they could afford to pay, given the amount of young pitching coming up in their system, and their obvious frustration with Davies.

That being said, I'd still rather have Wlad. But I won't be "depressed" with Davies/Lillibridge.

Trade Deadline Team: As soon as the Rangers get the Matt Harrison MRI results and sign off on the Braves' deal, then Atlanta will make the trade with the Royals. If Texas doesn't like what they of Harrison's arm then all bets are off.

There is also talk some teams are pissed that Dayton settled for a lesser offer than what they were offering because he knows Atlanta.

Or is it Dotel for Davies straight up?

Trade Deadline Team: You should feel, well, 'ok'. It's not like the Royals turned down Hu and went for Davies instead. They weren't going to get a top prospect for Dotel, and they decided to get something instead of nothing, hoping they can fix Davies and that a change of scenery will do some good as well.-

Kyle Davies at least equals Kason Gabbard. I've watched Gabbard every start this year and he's due for a major whupping.

davies has been no worse than bonderman was at similar ages, and nyroyal's been good about posting other great pitchers' early career stats.  i think it's safe to ignore davies' ML career to this point.

Davies has the potential to be a solid #2 but he is a risk.  He might not realize that potential. He came up too young (like Greinke).  Did great in the minors but then was rushed and has done poorly in the majors.  Thinks he's healthy with a good fastball with good command of it.  But has control problems with change and curve.  At only 23 years old he still has a lot of upside value.  He could be another very good SP.

Both Rany and the radio guy give Moore the benefit of the doubt after he picked up Meche and Bannister.  Rany likes how Moore's trades have worked out, like Burgos for Bannister, which he initially ridiculed.  Meche was considered a terrible FA signing, but it has turned out to be fantastic.  Tony Pena has done better than anyone expected.  Gathright has done very well.  Moore has earned the benefit of the doubt.

Moore knows Davies well, but so do the Braves.  So, who knows how good Davies really will be?  Dotel had to be traded but losing him will hurt the bullpen probably.  The whole bullpen got better when Dotel came off the DL.

Dotel might be back as a FA signing this offseason.  Thinks Royals may well bid for him this offseason.

--- i doubt balentien was ever offered, and if he was it was likely for more than dotel. sure, i probably would rather have wlad than davies but i personally dont believe it came down to a one or one decision. even if it did, as mentioned above, i trust GMDM with any move (especially for a pitcher) and will at least wait a couple of years before deeming this deal a failure. i suggest all of you do the same.

--- i basically agree with everything NYRoyal said, also in a less confrontational/bringing up taking your medication way. davis is young and has plenty of potential. we likely wont see him in royal blue all year long, my guess is he will start in omaha and stay there (like hochevar/buckner/etc.) until he proves he can dominate at that level.

--- im not pissed off one bit. i know i said this earlier, but i will give davies until ST 2009 before deeming this trade a failure/success, he is still a work in progress and deserves time. if he is ready early that is fantastic, but i am not expecting him to sniff the majors until next summer.

--- dont get me started on how you can compare kyle davies to scott elarton. and how you can make that jump to contraction? just wow...