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Game 130 Open Thread- Tigers (71-60) at Royals (57-72)

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This matters to no one, but Iowa City is quite possibly the hottest place on the face of the Earth today, a climatological occurrence which made the first day of classes incredibly uncomfortable. Well, for this instructor at least. Spending half an hour elbow deep in a jamming copier didn't help either...

 

In falling to the Indians 5-3 in extra innings Sunday afternoon, the Royals squandered a small but significant opportunity to leave their own impression upon the AL Central Pennant Race. Instead, the Indians slinked out of town with a respectable 2-1 series' victory and whatever sense of self-worth is possible to those professional athletes who are forced to live in Cleveland.

As fate the MLB scheduler would have it however, the Royals get another crack at relevance, as the Motor City Kitties come to town for three epoch changing games at the K. Tonight, its our man Brian Bannister (10-7, 3.28 ERA) in his continuing quest to finish a distant second to Dice-K in the AL ROY vote.

The Tigers counter with Nate Robertson (7-10, 4.80 ERA), who, despite working the Rec Specs, actually isn't that hardcore. I want my bespectacled athletes insane, dangerous and self-destructive, not back of the rotation roster filler who get by on changing speeds.

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It is time to finally wash the taste of Sunday's game out of my mouth.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

In other news
shockingly, we've decided to give a beauty queen a second-chance

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070828/ap_on_re_us/miss_teen_south_carolina

side note: when did the analysis of "America loves to give people second chances" go from being somewhat salient analysis to just a total cliche... i've probably heard 20 different people on ESPN alone use to for Michael Vick

by Freneau on Aug 28, 2007 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

That was the best answer
...I've ever heard a Miss ___ give in one of those beauty pageants.  I am, of course, referring to her original live on the air answer.  It was so amazing incoherent.  She got more and more lost with ever word.  It was immensely entertaining.  I'm pegging her IQ at about 85.

I'm guessing she'll be SI or ESPN's next Jenn Sterger.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am ashamed to have laughed
It really is more sad than funny.  Somehow I expect she will do just fine in life for the next 20 years just the same.
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say 10 years
She'll probably be able to ride those looks to some kind of success for the next 10 years.  Then, she'll start fading a bit, overcompensate with too much plastic surgery and her lifelong fake baking will start turning into leathery skin.  Once her looks are gone, she'll have nothing left to fall back on...except perhaps her rich husband.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably about the same time
they decided that Vick's actions equated to a one-time, pardonable offense, and not a history of repeated d-baggery.  There's a big difference (in my mind) between someone slipping up once ("Whoops, I can't believe I propositioned that undercover cop!" - just as a random example) or repeatedly and intentionally breaking the law for years.

Not to say I think he should be banished for life; his actions are certainly no worse than those of Leonard Little and countless others.  But to see a little kid holding up a sign that says (something along the lines of) "People make mistakes!" is a touch frustrating to me.

Royals, NBA, Golden Hurricane, Hawkeyes, Chiefs, and KU basketball, in that order.

by Rowyal on Aug 28, 2007 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm
going to make the big league club out of Spring Training next year.
Royals, NBA, Golden Hurricane, Hawkeyes, Chiefs, and KU basketball, in that order.

by Rowyal on Aug 28, 2007 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random comments
Here at KU we are into our third week of classes.  The daily high temperature has varied between say, 94 and 102 each day.

My wish finally came true and I have an office with a window this year.  Well, one-third of an office with a window.  It is soooo hot and the air conditioning in the building soooo old that the office is about 85 degrees most of the day.  I've watched one of my office mates visibly sweat almost every day we have been working together.

This cannot be normal.  Something bad is happening in the world.  My old dog cannot walk with me to my office any longer.  She gets too tired and wants to lay down after about a mile.

On a positive note, I think the Royals will have three, maybe four, rookies in the AL top-10 list this year.  Certainly Bannister and Soria will be ranked high.  Gordon has turned it on and will end the year with respectable numbers.  And Pena, not too shabby all in all.  That is quite a bumper crop.

I have organized a Historians at the Ballpark day for Sept. 8th vs. the hated Yankees.  I think 12-20 folks from the department will make the pilgrimage to the K.  For many of the new grad students and faculty it will be their first Royals game.  Spreading the good word.

Rock Chalk Talk for pretty good KU College Baseball Coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a window office too
But then again, every office here has one, so its no real accomplishment.

by Freneau on Aug 28, 2007 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops
SB is up, perhaps you could bump it down until after the game, RR?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Aug 28, 2007 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

yea
re-bump for SB after the game

by Freneau on Aug 28, 2007 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks man
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Aug 28, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight's heros!
German, LF
DeJesus, CF
Grudzielanek, 2B
Butler, DH
Brown, RF
Gload, 1B
Buck, C
Gordon, 3B
Pena, SS  

I don't get dropping Gordon down to #8.  Emil is in a good position to build on his team lead in RBI's.  I also do not get why Buddy is playing Emil so much lately.  Do you think the Royals are really thinking about bringing him back?  By arbitration rules they would have to pay him at least 80% of his salary this year.  That would be over $2.5M I think.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Emil Brown, can not be offered less
than $2,760,000 to return next year.  (80% of his $3.45M salary this year.)

I would be very surprised to see the Royals offer Emil arbitration again.  He seems very lame-ducky to me during these last weeks of the season.

Play some of the kids damn it Buddy!  Let's see what we have to work with next year!

Rock Chalk Talk for pretty good KU College Baseball Coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

the excitment builds
do i stay in my office or head home?

office has internet
home doesn't

tough call, as my heart is filled with a yearning to post in-game comments

by Freneau on Aug 28, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my god
no TV again.  lord, I want to rip my face off.

I am complaining to the Lawrence cable bastards tomorrow.  They are pulling about half the Royals broadcasts off the air now to show, local programing.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I already pay for MLB.com
Maybe I should switch next year to Extra Innings.  How many Royals games do they broadcast?
Rock Chalk Talk for pretty good KU College Baseball Coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are, that's why you need a slingbox
In KS, Missouri, Iowa, and Nebraska it will be blacked out on MLB.tv and MLBEI.  You have to get a slingbox to get around that (semi-legally).

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing about 90%
I haven't counted them, but that has been my experience.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW
I'm switching to Comcast before next season and getting that.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you know....
If they are in HD?
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only on Direct TV
Not on cable...at least not at the moment.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx
Good info to know.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

JQ ---
You don't have MLB TV? Aren't you in So Cal?
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm in Lawrence Kansas
Royals blackout zone.

The Lawrence Cable carries the Royals games pretty regularly until around August, and then they just kinda give up.  This is the second year in a row they followed this pattern.  I think they are only showing about two or three games a week lately.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bummer.....
I have my VPN set up, but I wasn't sure it would help anybody here. I can set up a generic account for RR personnel, and you can VPN to Seattle, then watch on MLB.TV. It probably isn't legal. Maybe I'd better research that.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks,
I just wish life were simple.

I could just sign off and watch the game late tonight or tomorrow moring in replay on MLB.com, but then I wouldn't get to hang wit' my peeps!

Rock Chalk Talk for pretty good KU College Baseball Coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say what you will about Leyland
But he puts together a horrible lineup.  He's batting his best hitters leadoff and 5th, and his worst hitter is batting third.  If he were the Royals manager, many would be calling for his head.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

JINX!
:)
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

When asked why Timo Perez is hitting 3rd
Leyland said, "because that is where I want to hit him" (according to the Tigers broadcasters).

That sounds like Buddy Bell-type logic.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

JQ ----
Very off topic... Are you a professor at KU? Sorry, I got here a little late and have been back-reading.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice!
Good luck... I'm putting the last 3 quarters on an MBA at Seattle University right now. I can't wait for school to end.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have my doctoral exam scheduled
for Sept. 25th.  As long as that goes off well all I will have left is the dissertation.  

I finally feel like I am over the hump and on the downhill part of the program.

Good luck wrapping up that degree.  I think the best day of my life will be the one when I receive that post-defense handshake.  Never worked so hard for anything in my life.

Rock Chalk Talk for pretty good KU College Baseball Coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then....
You can make us all call you Dr. JQ :)
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, the Tigers have some line-up
Granderson OPS .888
Polanco .846
Ordonez 1.025
Guillen .891

That is a lot of offense.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Leyland sticks T. Perez in the middle of it
...to slow their roll, I guess.  You wouldn't want too much offense too soon, I guess.

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

BANNY!!!!
Nice K... That pitch was d-o-o-o-w-n.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

KC
T minus 2 days until I make my first Kauffman appearance in 2 years. I am heading home for a long weekend and will be attending the afternoon game on Thursday. I'm getting chills just thinking about it.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

YEAH!!!
I'll be saying that next summer. The last game I was at, at the K, was in June of 2000. Quinn was a rookie, I think.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

German
3 for his last 32 and he's batting leadoff...hmmm?

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

He takes some pitches
Guess I forgot about that, I retract my statement.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Robertson had a long outing last time
Looks like he might be suffering the effects tonight....maybe

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Tigers announcers
discussing why it was a good thing German tagged up and went to third. Acted as if most people would think it was not a big deal. Apparently, the Detroit TV crowd is baseball illiterate.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit emil
Sucks we don't score there, indeed it does
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Robertson
I have him at 22 pitches in the 1st, even though we didn't push a run across that is a decent start.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

also note how few strikes
he's throwing -- 22 pitches, 9 strikes.

time to NOT be aggressive with him.

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

German in LF
Not a good read on that fly ball, scared me for about 2 seconds.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice lil inning for Bannister
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

by the way, i apologize...
...i did indeed misread what RR said on sunday: he did predict a 5-3 injuns win, pace my comment.  i had thought he'd be more optimistic, and i read it as a 5-3 victory for the good guys.

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Bannister really is good.
It took me a while to accept this.  I just assumed he was pitching over his head for months.  I finally accepted him as a good pitcher a few starts back.

Royals really got lucky finding a quality starting pitcher on the more-or-less discard pile.  We could stand to get lucky a few more times.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

ok im here.
after reading through all of the comments...

detroit announcers are decent, showing GMDM right now...

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Gload Will
Slice a single to left.....then he'll explode on the bases!!
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Aug 28, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

We really need to get a few
runs off of Robertson the way he's pitching tonight.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

end of the bat...
that seems like an all too common buck at bat.

since june 24th, we have a better record than the tigers. suckers...

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

but i kind of hope,
even if we're not directly going against the indians, that we keep winning and losing in tandem with them, so our cool inverted record thing keeps it up

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon
Everytime I watch Gordon against a lefty, he check swings on every pitch almost.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Gordon
I just realized, scouting report on Gordon against lefties...pitch him away, struggles mightily

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

RR trivia time
Can you list the top five Royals in total bases?  No looking cheating with the internet.
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This year, or all-time?
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guesses
  1. Mark Teahen
  2. Billy Butler
  3. John Buck
  4. Mark Grudzielanek
  5. David DeJesus
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

So this is giong to be another one of those games
More than one base runner per inning while scoring no runs
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by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

And Gload gets caught stealing to prove my point
Effing stupid.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh, the top of the tiggers' lineup
is like a minefield.  granderson is fast and scary.

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

#5 man
guessing Pena with the triples early on

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

banny's ERA
now 3.2.  let's get it down to 3.1 by the end of this game.

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

off to dinner!
i fully expect a Royals 5-3 lead when i check back in. :)

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Mmmmmm boy good pitching by Bannister
I mean, really
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Trivia part deux
10 active players have more than 400 career homeruns.  Can you name them?
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

my answers...
barry bonds
ken griffey jr
sammy sosa
frank thomas
alex rodriguez

those are all easy. now the tough ones...

gary sheffield
jim thome
manny ramirez

thats all i can think of...

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, 8 of 10!
  1. Bonds 761*
  2. Sosa 605
  3. Griffy 591
  4. Frank Thomas 508
  5. ARod 507
  6. Jim Thome 493
  7. Manny Ramirez 489
  8. Sheffield 479


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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK.
the last two are.....

carlos delgado and mike piazza.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first six are easy
  1. Barry Bonds
  2. Sammy Sosa
  3. Ken Griffey, Jr
  4. Frank Thomas
  5. Alex Rodriguez
  6. Jim Thome
Guesses, now
  1. Mike Piazza
  2. Manny Ramirez
  3. Gary Sheffield
  4. Vladimir Guerrero
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 out of 10 now picked
  1. Bonds 761*
  2. Sosa 605
  3. Griffy 591
  4. Frank Thomas 508
  5. ARod 507
  6. Jim Thome 493
  7. Manny Ramirez 489
  8. Sheffield 479

  10. Piazza 424
I guess this was not as hard as I expected!
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ding Ding
Rock Chalk wins.
  1. Bonds 761*
  2. Sosa 605
  3. Griffy 591
  4. Frank Thomas 508
  5. ARod 507
  6. Jim Thome 493
  7. Manny Ramirez 489
  8. Sheffield 479
  9. Delgado 425
  10. Piazza 424
Delgado was a tough one.  Very quiet 425 dingers.
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Tigers
do their best Royals imitation.

Maybe the Royals can manage a Tigers imitation?

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Damnit, forgot about Delgado
9 out of 10 on my first try isn't bad, I feel proud

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

you did better than me.
i got 8 out of 10, and wouldnt have ever guessed piazza without help.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW I AM SHOCKED
GREAT AB by John Buck
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

great AB by buck there
fouled off plenty of pitches and all that. hopefully gordon can drive em all in.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

When Buck's hitting well
He takes walks. Perhaps this is a good sign. He started off the at bat all wrong, though.

by Big Guy on Aug 28, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Finally we get to this guy!
They've shown some patience and it finally pays off!

by Scott McKinney on Aug 28, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

GORDON!!!!!
that was beautiful.

and with banny on the hill, i am feeling pretty confident...

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

and TPJ shows off his patience
taking more than 3 pitches to strike out.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

And Pena follows up with the 3 pitch K
Can't have too much fun now
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by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

TPJ
If he slowed down his swing a little do you think he might make a little more contact? He swings so hard his helmet either falls off or he has to readjust it.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

A-Gor Slugs Better
Off LHP's.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Aug 28, 2007 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

A few other names in the top-150
Career homeruns by active players
  1. Reggie Sanders 305
  2. Matt Stairs 235
  3. Mike Sweeney 197
  4. Jason LaRue 88
  5. Mark Grudzielanek 86
Gotta love seeing LaRue making that list.
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit bannister!
You're supposed to keep them scoreless after we score 3
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Should be 2nd and 3rd
German looked horrible on that play

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap...attack of the bloop hit
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

thank goodness Timo is up
now find a way to retire him banny

by Freneau on Aug 28, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus Christ Ordonez is having an unreal year
Yeah so uh bannister get him out somehow
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by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man this could get really ugly
Rough inning for Bannister...
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by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow....dodging bullets
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

First pitch ends the inning.
Makes you wonder why anyone would suggest to their team that they always swing at the first pitch they see in an at bat.

Thanks I-Rod. You're no A-Rod.

by Big Guy on Aug 28, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Palmeiro should be on the active list , I think...
Pretty sure he has not officially retired yet. I'm not certain, though.
-- Royals Delegate to the land of the Salmon and Moose (Seattle)

by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 28, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Palmerio
according to MLB.com historical player search.     First Base     1986 - 2005

by Skirra on Aug 28, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right,
I wonder why he was left off.  I'd be surprised to see Palmeiro try to come back at this point.
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buddy must be furious
that Germy just took five pitches in a row.

C'mon boys, get aggressive.

by kjfinkes on Aug 28, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

You know what feels good?
getting that run right back
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by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Grudz delivers
He is having an unreal second half.

AND BUTLER GOES YARD!

THIS IS A GREAT GAME TONIGHT!

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The Royals save thousands
on fireworks by having such a horrible slugging team.

Nice hit Butler, you finished him off.

by kjfinkes on Aug 28, 2007 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Blind squirrel and a nut?
So, in the same inning Buddy's "give up outs to move up baserunners" and "always swing at the first pitch" strategies both pay off.

What am I supposed to complain about now?

by Big Guy on Aug 28, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

disagree with the bunt
but i guess it worked out. although the point is moot because of butlers domination of that ball.

BOOM BOOM BABY!!!

6-1 good guys, i think we should be pretty confident...

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

this has been one of my favorite games of the year
at least of the month of august. not quite sure why, probably because we have thoroughly outplayed a team that went to the WS last season and is a serious WC contender this season. and butler dominated the ball over the wall.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

gator in left field
and (correct me if im wrong) im pretty sure he is wearing glasses.

must only put in his contacts when he think hes playing, so when he wasnt starting tonight, no contacts.

i might be wrong though...

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

This was discussed on the radio
something about Gator having problems with his contact pre-game.

Does he look smarter when he wears glasses?

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weak, 2 strike double to sean casey
Bannister is giving up a ton of hits.  Who's up in the pen?
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully somebody
Take him out, pat him on the back, and let a rested bullpen take care of it

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad luck
Not an easy pitch to hit and he gets some wood on it.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't most peoples say
that all lefties LOVE the ball low and inside? So why do our guys continue to get beat there? Last two hits, both up in the count, trying to go low and inside to lefties= base hits.

by Big Guy on Aug 28, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Because the Tigers
are a good hitting team.

And then he gets a K down and in to a lefty, go figure.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers announcers
"The Royals really got the better end of the Burgos-Bannister deal."

Understatement of the year.

by nycroyal on Aug 28, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

too soon
Bannister's been great.

But... Burgos has put up a 3.42 ERA, with a 1.10 WHIP in 17 games for NY this season.  Not too shabby.  

Unlike the Sisco trade, I liked this deal when it went down, mainly because we were trading for a position of need.  Still, it's still too early to say whether Burgos won't turn out to be anything good.   I believe he's got a good shot at being an Armando Benitez-type reliever.  I think Bannister may be a Jeff Suppan-type starter (though at this point, he looks better).  

Which is more valuable?  I think any answer you'll get to that question will be subjective...

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big strikeout for Bannister!
He really gives a damn.  He really seems to want the wins.  I like it.  I am pretty sick of players who are indifferent.  Burgos, I'm thinking of you.  Great trade.  Bannister for Burgos.
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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hiram needs to take notes.
Davies would have gotten bombed with the stuff Banny took to the mound. BB goes 6 innings giving up 2 and hopefully leaves with a four run lead.

by Big Guy on Aug 28, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn straight.
And who is the rookie!  Hirim has two years MLB time on Bannister (and probably twice as much natural talent) but you'd never know it by watching him in a game.

I'm still pretty cool on the whole Davies thing.  He doesn't look like long-termer to me.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only quibble is
who else were we offered?

Maybe Hiram was the best deal out there.  We don't really know.  If the Seattle paper was accurate and Balentien was offered up, then Moore blew it.  

But maybe all we were offered were Miguel Ascencio's?   I don't know.  I do know that Davies was a bit depressing a haul after seeing the Linebrink deal and seeing Betemit going to the Yanks for S. Proctor.  

Presuming there's still a premium on Closers With Experience, one would have to think we'd at least net a deal on par with those...

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not arguing against the trade
I think it was a reasonable trade.  Dotel was not an elite pitcher.  The Royals were only going to get so much.

That said, I don't think much of Davies at this point.

I guess if it had been me in charge of the Royals I would have been looking for some infield prospects at the high-A or AA level for Dotel.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm playing devil's advocate here
i thought dotel for davies was pretty bad for us at the time (and that hasn't changed too much)

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit! He was so close
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

2B
Two very good 2nd Basemen hitters with RISP w/2 out in this game

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

1-2-3 Strike the bastard out
Nice game Bannister.  Nice way to finish your night.

Bastard Tigers are going down tonight.

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.
because no matter how good you are, you cant always have your best stuff.

banny and meche can both do that, no one else on our staff can (namely jdlr and davies). hopefully that changes over the winter...

oh, and soria strikes me as somebody who would be able to do it too.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiger announcers suttley
implying that it is the Royals' quiet crowd accounting for their deficit, ie Det is used to playing in a noisy environment after the NY series.

Polanco's head looks like it's swollen with bee stings.

by frankwhitefan on Aug 28, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i.e. tigers announcer's an idiot
Surprised he didn't blame it on the total lunar eclipse last night...

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on Peralta
can we PLEASE avoid a bullpen meltdown
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

you know, you spot this bullpen a 5 run lead
And we win 90-95% of the games, I think.  

That's actually a huge departure from teams in the past, and it makes it fun to be a fan of the team.

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

good inning by jo-el
impressively worked out of the lead off base hit.

if we blow this lead tonight after sundays game the bullpen good will will have disappeared.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh, this isn't the same bullpen
It was with Greinke (and even Dotel) in it. I was way more comfortable with GReinke than I am with Peralta, and Soria has been a bit shakey lately.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Peralta's almost exactly the same pitcher he was
last year.  Not stellar, but solid.  I'd say above-average or slightly above-average.  We could certainly do a lot worse.

Taking Greinke out of the pen is a loss, certainly, but if you realize that he's starting now and Perez is not, you come to the conclusion that the team is so much better off...

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

6-2
six more outs

can. we. do it?

by Freneau on Aug 28, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta run and pick up my wife
I'll listen as we seal the victory on the car radio.

Good game tonight.  The Royals really are great!

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by James Quinn on Aug 28, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing that really impresses me with Joel
Is his stellar strike out to walk ratio. I don't remember what it is exactly, but last time I looked, it was something like 4 to 1.
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by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed.
that was a good find by baird, he was always good at finding spare parts like jo-el. just not through FA and he definately wasnt good at finding star caliber players, i mean he thought neifi perez would be one.

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought Glass pushed for Perez
but regardless, Benito for Nunez was one of Baird's best trades, hands down

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except the Royals haven't had a decent C since
And I saw Nunez give up 6 ER in 1 IP in Cleveland two years ago!

by jbrocato on Aug 28, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

by the way, where is Nunez?
Haven't seen that guy in a week. Is he hurt, or has the Royals moved to a 6 man rotation thingy?

by marbotty on Aug 28, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man walking Raburn, wtf?
Right before the heart of hte lineup? Noooo way this ends well
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Trivia Again
Who are the two active players with the longest streak of 20+ HR seasons? No guessing if you are watching Baseball Tonight.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Gary Sheffield and A-Rod?
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by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent?
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by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope
And since nobody is interested this late in the game apparently I will just give it to you.

Manny and Chipper at 13 years

Delgado 11
Vlad 10
A. Jones 10

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three outs to go...
can we manage it this time?
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by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

back from dinner & drinks
looks like i was one run off for each team: not 5-3, but 6-2.  not bad!!!

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Joakim doing his best to get up the tying run.
This is scary and slightly depressing.
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by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it my imagination
or has Soria not been the same since he lost Greinke as his setup man? Does he see the two of them as a one-two punch and he feels off his rhythm without his proper partner or something?
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by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm worried about Soria
Not because we might blow this game, but because he's had a stretch of pretty bad pitching.

So help me, if Buddy overused this guy and gets him injured, I'm going to cut the tendons out of his arm to sew into Soria's. Without anesthetic.

by Big Guy on Aug 28, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright that's a win and i will take it
but the ERA of Soria continues to rise
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 28, 2007 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Soria
No different than Dotel, kinda scares you at first but usually gets the job done.

by MileHighKCfan on Aug 28, 2007 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hooray!
And the bad taste of Sunday's loss is gone from my mouth.
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by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

white sox just lost 4-3.
so we now have a 2 game lead again.

i dont think we are going to give it up again...

by rockchalk on Aug 28, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

And it's final in Arlington
Rangers beat the White Sox, 4-3. We gain a game in the race for fourth place! Woo hoo!
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by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

And for third place
if we care to consider it a possibility, with the Twinkies' loss.
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by cmkeller on Aug 28, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

no...
...the twinkies have been playing too well of late for us to think about catching them.  i think our goal should be to play the rest of the season 500, which would bring our seasonal winning percentage to, say, 460 or so.

by Sean O Se on Aug 28, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congratulations
from a Tigers Fan. You spoiled "the party" again ;).

16 Tigers Hits and only 3 runs. 6 Royals Hits and 6 Runs. So, you deserved it. Brian Bannister is a tough one to overcome (although he gave up 11 Hits) and the Royals worked Nate Robertson very well.

I always have a soft spot for the Royals (althoug not when they are playing the Tigers ;) ) and I really hope that they get better and better (after the next 2 games of course). It's great to see the White Sucks now at the bottom.

btw: You have 6 games remaining against the Indians. Bring them on

Greetings from Germany

by Germantiger on Aug 29, 2007 7:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Greetings From Alaska
Dirk; my wife is from Dulken, about 60K from Dusseldorf. I'm pulling for the Los Tigres (except when they play the Royals, of course) to keep the Yanks out of the series should they make the post-season again. We're working on that Indians thing, too. We'll do our best to help you out there.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a dark and stormy night....
When they say tornadoes and then actually mention Zooks Spur I get worried.  From about 6 pm. to 4 am. it rocked and rolled to the Mother Nature beat.  Subsequently, I missed the game on the computer and the reception was so bad on KWKY that I gave up.  

Great game though...Banns looked very good and the youngsters actually led the way.  I don't understand Fuddo's lineup but I haven't understood much that he has done this season.

The weather gods have promised that the next ten days will be storm free.  Ya sure you betcha...  Anyway...Go Blue and lets get another win tonight.

by grudz69 on Aug 29, 2007 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Forgot to include my obligatory positivity post
A "W" is a "W", folks.  Mark that one in the books, we're now 14 under.  Let's get back to our pythagorean W-L by mid-September!

Temporarily, all is right with the world!   :)

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by Royals Nation on Aug 29, 2007 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey...where is mean mama...
we won so we should be greeted by that cold stare that says..."you're not worth the sweat off my thong."  Down on your knees dogboy....

But, but ...we won....

I know, I know...but it is so wonderful to be cool again and have the windows open.   I am ready for fall.

by grudz69 on Aug 29, 2007 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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