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Game 150 Open Thread- White Sox (65-85) at Royals (64-85)

Today's news that the Cubs fluky 7-6 victory over the Reds last night secured them of a higher win total than the Royals, thus meaning that NHZ has lost his bet with the Cubs blog Bleed Cubbie Blue, got me thinking about the Cubs, and, in turn, just who us Royals fans should be pulling for down the stretch. There isn't much left to be excited about, especially after the Tiger's blew a 5-1 lead in Cleveland last night, but nevertheless, a few races still remain.

AL Wildcard: New York leads Detroit by 3.5 Games: I know many Royals fans have a genetic inability to root for the Yankees, but over the years I've sorta come to the point where the Yankees are the new... well, that I don't really know. I guess Royals fans should root for Detroit, but I don't really know what that accomplishes. The Tigers are a boring, flawed team who managed to facilitate the hated Cardinals' miracle run last season. Plus, wouldn't a Yankee hater more truly relish another postseason loss? Arod's character hasn't been attacked in a few months, and now that Peyton finally won "the big one" the Bill Simmonses of the world are down to Arod and praying for a Dan Marino comeback. Root For: Tigers, I guess.

AL East: Boston leads New York by 3.5 Games Thanks to Bud Selig what might have been one of the greatest collapses/comebacks in the history of the game has been reduced to a battle for seeding. If the Red Sox go on a five game losing streak this week, we might see some real drama, especially if Detroit starts winning. Root For: A trainwreck.

NL East: New York leads Philly by 2.5 Games Haven't the Phillies been in this position for like the last six seasons? Neither team or city really compares much to the Royals, but in a general underdog/anti-NY sort of way, the Phillies are the team, although with reservation, because of some residual love for Carlos Beltran. Root For: Philadelphia

NL Central: Chicago leads Milwaukee by 1 Game Now that the Brewers are Selig-free, its safe to enjoy them, and honestly, how could anyone possibly be rooting for the Cubs in this? The Cubs are like the Yankees and Red Sox, minus the competence, as they've spent the last two off-seasons throwing money at their problems, overpaying for both medicorities and guys that just plain suck, but not suffering any consequences because of the money machine that is Wrigley and the Cubbie mythos. Congrats, you've just built a team with a $99 million dollar payroll which is playing .520 ball in the NL Central! After 2004, does anyone else want to see another "curse" broken ever again? Seriously, on multiple fronts we can't let this happen. Plus, the Brewers could be the Royals in a few years, with a great young lineup and some shaky pitching. Of course, I fully expect the Cubs to win the WS. Root For: Milwaukee, with all your heart.

NL West: Arizona leads San Diego by 1 Game Neither city really fits with KC at all, in fact, its hard to imagine two cites less like KC. Although the D'Backs, like the Brewers, are at least the young, good team, the Royals hope to be. Do we really need to see the Padres in the postseason again? The most boring team of the decade has incrementally improved the last three seasons, and one of their colors is "sand", but beyond that, blah. Although Bruce Bochy's "propeller heads" blast makes one want to see the D'Backs fall back to their Pythag record and miss out. I love the burden of proof here: one out of 100 teams will defy their Pythag, which obviously means its a flawed idea that has been disproven. Root For: Arizona

NL Wildcard: San Diego leads Philly by 1.5 Games Thank you Mr. Selig! Out of the four principles in the NL East and West races, three are going to make the playoffs anyway. The Wild Card isn't adding a race, its subtracting one. Anyway, I've had bad things to say about San Diego above, and the Phillies have had a tough go. Root For: Philadelphia

If anyone wants to complicate matters with an ex-Royal analysis, I'm all ears.

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Tonight's Gavin Floyd (1-3, 5.79 ERA) against defender of freedom Gil Meche (8-12, 3.78 ERA). Meche has already set a new career high for innings pitched this season with 195, and figures to just keep trucking along without pause until Game 162. After some hedging, I'm officially of the opinion that enough is enough already. Look, the signing has been vindicated, and we're all happy to have Gil in a Royals uniform for the rest of his 20s. So whats the point of another three starts? Lets hope he walks off the field in the 8th inning tonight with a lead, tips his hat to the fans, and starts his off-season.

Won't happen, but without our dreams, what would we have?

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3 hours to go
the excitement builds!

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who to root for
I agree with most of what you say, although I do have some differences of opinion.

I will root for the Yankees over the Tigers, so that when they fail in the playoffs, it will be that much more public and spectacular.  

I'm afraid I will be rooting for the Cubbies.  In much the same way I was pulling for the Red Sox before, anything to let these people shut up about curses and futility is a good thing.

I agree with Arizona over San Diego.  I can't root for a team from a place that has great weather all the time.  They need to suffer something.

I don't have any opinion about Mets/Phillies.  The fans for both teams are obnoxious and don't deserve anything.

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Visited San Diego only once
It was March, and the weather was colder than it was in Missouri that week.

by CentralChamps2009 on Sep 18, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees over Boston
I'm no Yankee fan, but considering what a commanding lead the Red Sox had, and what an incredible comeback the Yankees made after people wrote them off for good earlier this season, I'd prefer to see the deed completed rather than the anti-climax of the Red Sox holding onto a slim lead.

And A-Rod is a quality player, who I'd love to see break through in the post-season.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Sep 18, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, what's the weather like down there
Me and my dad are planning on heading down and it's pouring up here. Does anyone have a gauge on if this game will be played?

by royaldaddy on Sep 18, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well
its gotten dark... & there's supposed to be a storm coming.

by teahen24 on Sep 18, 2007 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

radar doesn't look very good
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My rooting interests:
First of all, I still need two Red Sox wins, two Yankee losses, and three Royal wins to clinch all four of my big bets for the season. I have to say I think all should be OK, but the Yankee one has me a bit nervous! Almost potentially may need them to clinch a playoff early enough to rest some guys!

Giddy about the Cardinals Sept collapse. That was long overdue this year, as LaRussa was using smoke and mirrors to keep that sad collection even remotely close to contention. Proving my point: The Royals have scored more runs, and allowed fewer runs, than the Cards have this season!!!

Happy with either the Brewers or the Cubs. Brewers makes a great story (pee your pants for the brewers.com), while the Cubs would absolutely STICK IT TO THE CARDINAL FANS! Gotta love that angle!

As for the Yankees, I would much prefer they miss the playoffs, as I'm afraid if they get in they could EASILY decide to just bludgeon their way to a title, pitching be damned. Honestly, I know pitching is supposed to be the be all to end all, but it's really not that hard to see them simply outscoring everybody in their way. I'm getting ill just thinking about it.

by loyal2s dad on Sep 18, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, I hate to be missing
the new promotion tonight:

Long Sleeve Wet T-Shirt Tuesday.

by loyal2s dad on Sep 18, 2007 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NL race
I'm going for (with a nod to baseballmusings.com) the massive tie scenario, which will require: Dodgers 11-2 Phillies 9-3 Padres 8-5 Diamondbacks 6-5 Mets 7-6

by Moose Tacos on Sep 18, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not the Brewers
That would leave only the Nationals as teams existing in 1985 that have gone longer than the Royals without a playoff appearance.

by jbrocato on Sep 18, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm going
It looks like the weather will clear up here pretty quick. I really want one of those long-sleeved tees. Gil will get a W tonight! Prediction: Royals 9, Sox 4

by royaldaddy on Sep 18, 2007 6:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah
I think its gonna stop. & I'm going too.

by teahen24 on Sep 18, 2007 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, if you'll all send me fifty cents,
we'll have this BCB T-Shirt paid for right quick. :P
"True friends stab you in the front."-Oscar Wilde.

by NHZ on Sep 18, 2007 6:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A-Gor Surfs The Pine
It did look like a pretty nasty hit he took on that foul; hope it's nothing serious.

J. Owens cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256  
J. Fields lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .234  
J. Thome dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268  
J. Dye rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252  
D. Erstad 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .251  
A.J. Pierzynski c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262  
J. Uribe ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .230  
D. Richar 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240  
A. Cintron 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .243  
 Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0  

 Kansas City
  AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg  
D. DeJesus cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .267  
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .296  
R. Gload 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297  
B. Butler dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .296  
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285  
J. Smith 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .195  
J. Gathright lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .315  
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .229  
T. Pena Jr. ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .257  
 Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Smith hitting sixth brings tears of joy to my eyes; he'll probably hit for the cycle.

Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That Royals lineup is Godawful
Seriously.
Smith-Gathright-Buck-Pena Jr.?
Buck must wonder when he took a dump in Buddy's hat.

by Eppenweb on Sep 18, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I am rooting for all of this group
AL...
Red Sox
Indians
Angels
Tigers ????

NL..
Mets
Cubs
Diamondbacks
Padres

I think the World Series winner will come out of the AL.  I hate to say this but this maybe Boston's year.  I am hoping that it will be the Indians vs the Padres in the WS.  But, what do I know I am in last place in the football league.  

by grudz69 on Sep 18, 2007 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What Network Has
The Series this year?
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Guess We All
Know what Gload just did; .352 RISP before that AB.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We may score 3 runs in an inning
But we'll be damned if we strike out less than 3 times.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Joey The K
Fulfills the prophecy.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"He Gone"
Is as bad as "San Antonio Rose".
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So...
I have to say that rather than rooting for anyone in particular in the NL central to win, root as hard as you can FOR ALL TEAMS TO HAVE A SUB 500 RECORD BY THE END OF THE SEASON.

I would really love this.

by loyal2theroyals on Sep 18, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Approach
To palying "D" by Gator.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why not?
I already root for the Royals?
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two 10 pitch AB's in one inning
Meche continues to be effective while throwing a billion pitches.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 runs, 3 k's
do you think we will score more runs, or have more strikeouts?  I say more k's
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meche Threw
112 pitches to Uribe.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Last Royal To Hit
30 HR's in a season?
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

balboni?
did dye ever do it

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeremy Giambi, I think
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Sep 18, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reds lead cubs 3-0
but Sheets has left the game in Hou

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wonder what he hurrt this time
Sheets is the Mike Sweeney of Milwaukee
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top of our lineup owns Floyd
Amazing how similar his stuff is to Meche's.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

another single for David!
he doesn't want to win the Mark Quinn Award!

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gritty 2-Out Rally
In progress.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guess Again
Harrelson just mentioned Lew Krausse; he came up very young and never fulfilled his enormous promise.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/krausle02.shtml
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gload fails to summon any mojo this time
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we continue that aggressive approach
Buck - 2 pitches, swinging at both
Pena - 3 pitches, swinging at third (almost unbelievable patience)
DeJ - 2 pitches, single
Grudz - 1 pitch, single
Gloadie - 4 pitches, groundout - too patient
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bottom of the lineup
be afraid, be very afraid
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook has given up 12 hits in 5 innings
To the tigers while only allowing 3 ER. Further proof the tigers are...toast. Post season, forget about it.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Richar liked everything he saw so much
That he went down lookin' at it.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That Last Pitch To
Richar just materialized in Buck's glove; what a laser.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Meche is on track for another 6
inning performance. Which is fine by me, if I was in charge this would be his last start. But we've already discussed this.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely
Esp. if we have any fantasies of contending next year.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

46 pitches through 3
we are drawing near 4th place again

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who does Buddy love more?
Minky or Gload?

I ask because Minky has homered tonight?

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I go Rossey
He's Buddy's man.

by LeoBloom on Sep 18, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did jason smith really just triple?
After swinging and missing twice (standard)?
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sawks Dumbass Pitcher
Threw him an inside change on 0-2.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the royals do know they have a game tomorrow?
right?

they are swinging at everything?

is the groupie scene really great on tuesday nights?

by LeoBloom on Sep 18, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gator has really realyl regressed
Since his eye problems began
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it really only that?
It feels like a regression to the mean instead.

by Eppenweb on Sep 18, 2007 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn you gathright
why are our triples always with two outs?

by LeoBloom on Sep 18, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as my friend Tom used to say...
with Smith, it's either fast or feaman.
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on the bright side
no strikeouts for two whole innings!
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walking a .237 hitter, with nobody out
To lead off an inning, with Jim Thome on deck. Meche does something like this at least once every game, and it almost always leads to a run.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meche Walks Fields
Just let that sink in.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

theres a leadoff walk
Meche will be gone in two innings, mark my words.

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll take the under....
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure enough, ,here we go...
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GIDP Time
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dye time
GiDP would be nice

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just got on board with the game
Has Esteban German done something to Buddy that he isn't getting the ABs that he was earlier in the year?  Thought he would be at 3B with Gordon being wounded.  

Buddy's fondness for players continues to grow!

by daveyork on Sep 18, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just think its Buddy's general animosity
towards German

made he saw him talking to Huber as well

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thome=
Blind man on the bases.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Smith Has To
Knock that ball down; Buddy knows that.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice play Smith
There goes the shutout
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3-1
nothing to eat into Smith's playing time though

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can One Of Our
Hitters just club Pierzynski in the back of the head and act like it was an accident?
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Verlander getting torched in Cleveland
Nothing makes me grin harder than knowing the Tigers are out of the playoffs
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pena Bunted
Successfully; bye-bye triples.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank god Pena bunted
He might of GIDP
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Charge The
Mound, David!
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now we're in full fledged strand baserunners mode
And that's how you lose, by failing to pile on more runs
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but won't Gloadie.....
explodie?
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gload passes the buck to Butler
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a walk?
what was that?
bases loaded, time to pinch LaGoo
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Butler shows great discipline
Waiting until the SECOND pitch to ground out and strand 3 more baserunners.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

10 baserunners, 4 innings, 3 runs
FUN
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah, giving up the double to the .230something hitt
er after being ahead 0-2. Standard.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There was a time this year . . .
when I would be pretty sure we could hold this lead. I was enjoying that feeling, but this September collapse has totally ended it. Now I'm back to believing no lead is possibly safe.

by Eppenweb on Sep 18, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We're only one ball between Smith's legs,
a bloop single into left field and a first pitch fastball from David Riske to Jim Thome away from not having the lead.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is wrong with the Teabag?
he has been striking out at an alarming rate lately
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Other Jason
Is just a single and an HR from the cycle.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What an AB from Gathright
Those are kind of AB's you tell your grandkids about
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great
now we are making Gavin look like Tom Seaver.  I recommend eye exams for the whole team.
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another K, another baserunner stranded
1st inning - 1 LOB
2nd inning - 2 LOB
3rd inning - 1 LOB
4th inning - 3 LOB
5th inning - 1 LOB

This is how you win ballgames folks

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another Dude Standing On
2nd with no outs.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here goes the lead.
I'm calling it. We're losing at the end of this inning.
Prove me wrong, Royals.

by Eppenweb on Sep 18, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GIDP Tine
For Jermy.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's that sound I heard? A meltdown??
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Formerly Swift
Erstad legs it out.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We escape with the lead
The ever shrinking lead. Sure would be nice to have some insurance runs, too bad we're too busy leaving them all on base...
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TPJ Goes Full!
Singles, however; still no BB.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even better than stranding
GIDP
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What Is Scarier
Than Meche going into the 7th with 90 pitches, a one run lead and the bottom of the order coming up?
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nothing
unless Ducky was warming up
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we've lost all semblance of momentum
I feel this game slip, slip, slipping away
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed. - Emily Dickinson

by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

These are the best 2 AB's Juan Uribe
Has had all season. Leave it to our man Gil.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A Double Digit K
Was not what he needed.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Juan Uribe alone has seen 26 pitches tonight
From Gil Meche in 3 AB's. He's 0-3. Chew that one over.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's 1/4 of his pitch total.
Holy cow. That's a special brand of futility.

by Eppenweb on Sep 18, 2007 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question Meche needs to ask himself:
How the hell does it take you 26 pitches to get Juan Uribe out 3 times.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Uribe just has his number.
I mean, Meche needed only about 75 pitches to get through 8 of the nine batters in the Sox lineup several times.

by Eppenweb on Sep 18, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meche is probably done for tonight
I wish we could just see Soria for two innings instead of worrying about our middle relief.

Who do you think pitches the 8th, Bale? Riske? Musser?

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by cmkeller on Sep 18, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whatever Happens Tonight
Don't blame Gil.

          IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA  
G. Meche  7.0 4 2 1 2 5 0 3.70

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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I never do
The guy's been everything we could have expected and more. Bannister's numbers are better, but I feel like Meche has been our top pitcher for 2007.
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by cmkeller on Sep 18, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt that he has pitched well
He has most of the season. I still find him somewhat annoying to watch pitch. There is a reason my favorite pitcher is Roy Halladay.
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

will Gil come out in the 8th?
if not, who comes out?
I say Riske - just throw the first pitch in the dirt so the don't hit a first pitch homer
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by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It probably has to be Riske
If we're trying to win
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, at least he hit that ball
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by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gload might not play the
rest of the season....I believe he just looked at five pitches without swinging.  This is not the veteran grittiness we are looking for.

by kjfinkes on Sep 18, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Score! 1 more LOB!
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to make Myers work...
10 pitches.  That's including the Gload single.  Geeeeezzzzz....
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gload Walked
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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gobble
Not a terrible choice, but Ozzie will pinch-hit righties...can he handle them?
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by cmkeller on Sep 18, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good thing
Jason S. took care of that sad approach Ross took
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by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gobble throwing 94, that's nice
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Peralta in?
And not Riske?
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wee, Peralta for the 98th time this season
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Peralta On For Fields
Who handles Thome?
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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why?
Why did he take Gobble out? It wasn't an injury or thing was it?

by RyanBukvichFan on Sep 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's Jor-El
And he is Superman's daddy. Now the fearsome Jawnbeowl ascends the bump to surrender a HR to Thome.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

John Bale, apparently his recent woes
Are of no concern to our fearless/witless manager.
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i just realized
we've all kinda been in a bad mood tonight, despite the royals leading

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I blame it on the dreadful recent play
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although I have been utterly pissed
With the way the team has been playing of late, I'll actually be satisfied with 70 wins, if we get there by Sept. 30.  If we get 70 wins....I'll look at the big picture and say, "OK.  We were better than this, but most of that's on our manager".  I'll take 70 wins.
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody notice
that Gameday got rid of the strike zone box a few weeks ago?

by kjfinkes on Sep 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I did notice that....
I thought it was a pretty good way to tell small vs. large umpire strike zones.
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buddy Surely Will Do
Some random POing.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buck has 322 AB's on the season
Man, that's just criminal..... :-(
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here at the K, we're baffled
that Jason Smith and Gator both got to face leftys while Huber rots on the bench. Oh well, it's a nail biter here!

by royaldaddy on Sep 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so incredibly lame
just go away Bell, we're tired of you.

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just curious, RR, how many games...
...do you think Bell has cost us this year?  I don't know if even the best manager in the world could make us a .500 ballclub, but I'm thinking Bell alone has cost us about 3-4 games over an "average" manager.  Maybe 6-7 games behind a great manager.
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zero
On the other hand, I had the privilege of seeing LaRussa cost the Cardinals a game against the Phillies with his bullpen and bench management.  Of course, seeing the Cardinals lose is a good thing.

BTW, to the best of my knowledge, Bell has no DWI charges against him.

by jbrocato on Sep 19, 2007 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zero? That it? Zero.
And you can automatically recall one game LaRussa cost one in the rare moments you catch a glimpse of a Cards game?

What?!

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by Royals Nation on Sep 19, 2007 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have attended 20 MLB games in 2007
I would suggest that there have been two, neither involving the Royals, that the manager's blunders cost the team the game.

In June, the Reds were in St. Louis.  Tie game, bottom of the ninth, winning run on third, one out.  Then-manager Jerry Narron should have walked Taguchi and Pujols to set up force plays.  He didn't.  Taguchi hit a walkoff single.

Last night, Tony LaRussa was making bizarre subbing decisions in the second inning.  He depleted his bench to the point that pitchers were pinch-hitting and pinch-running in a game that went 14 innings.

I have attended 11 Royals games in four cities this year and did not see one where either Bell or the opposing manager affected the final outcome.

by jbrocato on Sep 19, 2007 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to MLB Gameday
That first Wasserman pitch was square on Pena's midsection.  Right below the belt.
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Soria
Please nail this down
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And On To The
9th; Soria time is better than Lima time, anytime.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on, Soria
3 outs!  String 'em all together.
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, baby!
2 outs to go!
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The 67mph curveball is just too sick
I want Soria to start so bad
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That Curve Is
Illegal in most states.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can I retract all of my pessimism the last 2 days?
If we win the ballgame tonight?

:)

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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

close this out please
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by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where is Soria more valuable?
Closer or reliever?  Who closes if he starts?  Is it that easy to find another good closer?

by I need more Esteban on Sep 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Holy Roman Emperor of Grit....
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Strikes out!!!!
:)
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erstad gets hooked by the hook, 2 down
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Erstad Punts
Soria pumps strikes.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ballgame!
It feels ohhhhh so good!
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by Royals Nation on Sep 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AJ saves himself the embarassment
And that's a win. 10 pitches, 10 strikes, 2 K's. Mexican tough.
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by slayor on Sep 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

royals win

You can put that on the board... Yes!

by royalsreview on Sep 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is so good to see Mean Mama again....
65 wins and counting.... Yes,.... I will have my Victory Scotch now after a tough day in the Metal business.  The world will sleep better tonight knowing that the Royals won.

Go Blue .....

by grudz69 on Sep 19, 2007 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Whole Team Should
Pay for dinner, drinks, hookers, whatever for Meche and Soria tonight; Bale, Peralta and Gobble are exempt.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Sep 18, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pat, I'd like a "W".
Ding! Vanna, turn around another W for Gil!

Hey, we didn't have our Soria scare-moment this time. 1-2-3 save feels...OK. Less adrenaline, but that's not such a bad thing.

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by cmkeller on Sep 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome
we are the greatest!
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by buddyball on Sep 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*Sigh*
Collective sigh of relief.  The march to 70 (or 72?) continues.  I don't wanna be the worst team in the AL, for personal reasons.  I don't wanna go all winter knowing we're still the worst team in baseball.  I wanna be respectable.  I wanna be close to competing.  Do I sound like a selfish crybaby?  :)

But a win is a win, and hey, we're Royals fans, let's just bask in them!  Take what we can from decent baseball.

Temporarily, all is dandy with the universe!

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by Royals Nation on Sep 19, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Soria
Should start and close. :-)

by doublestix on Sep 19, 2007 1:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean, like a complete game?
I've heard rumors that some pitchers used to do that occasionally. Seriously, that sounds like the sort of thing Soria would be perfect at.
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by cmkeller on Sep 19, 2007 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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