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The 100 Greatest Royals of All-Time - #91 John Buck

I compiled this list before the year started, and since then John Buck has assuredly moved up the list. Perhaps when I come out with a revised version of this list we can have Mark Grudzielanek on the list instead of Rey Sanchez and John Buck further up the list.

The 91st Greatest Royal is John Buck

Compare the following catchers:

Catcher A
Age  AVG  OBA  SLG OPS+
24  .265 .332 .393 102
25  .223 .263 .299  59
26  .255 .306 .380  93

Catcher B
Age  AVG  OBA  SLG OPS+
23  .279 .363 .397  95
24  .241 .311 .387  80
25  .254 .316 .408  93
26  .233 .313 .335  70

Catcher C
Age  AVG  OBA  SLG OPS+
23  .235 .280 .424  84
24  .242 .287 .389  79
25  .245 .306 .396  76
26  .230 .320 .464  99

Catcher A is Mike MacFarlane, Catcher B is Ramon Hernandez and Catcher C is our own John Buck.

Buck was made a full-time starter at age 23. Jason Varitek wasn't a full-time starter until he was 27. Jorge Posada wasn't a full-time starter until he was 26. Paul LoDuca wasn't a full-time starter until he was 29. There are obviously catchers who are great hitters from the get-go, but there are certainly just as many who weren't worth a spit with the stick until they were closer to 30.

Buck gets a lot of grief for his defense, but he hasn't had much to work with as far as a pitching staff. For his career he has nailed 34% of would-be base-stealers, right in line for the league average. He led the league in pick-offs with six in 2005. He has yielded fourteen passed balls in three seasons, certainly not an alarming number.

I think there are two reasons why John Buck gets as much criticism from Royals fans as he does. First, he was part of the Carlos Beltran deal, and although Mark Teahen's breakout 2006 season had relieved some of the pressure of being part of that deal, there is still a lot of expectation on Buck to justify that deal.

The second is that Royals fans see a lot of good catchers  in their division. The truth is, there aren't a ton of good hitting catchers in the league right now. Once you get past the top tier candidates, you have guys like Miguel Olivo and Rod Barajas starting for teams.

In 2007, the Royals picked up Jason LaRue from the Reds to split time with Buck and motivate him to become a better ballplayer. Buck has responded with a career year with a spike in home run production, increased walk rates, and a much higher slugging percentage, despite a decrease in playing time. He will have to continue to improve to become a useful Major League catcher, but I am a fan and I hope he does make those improvements.

Why am I a fan of John Buck? Because John Buck is a manly name befitting of a catcher. Because he reminds me of "Rube" from the movie Major League II. Because he had the cojones to get in the face of the lazy Runelvys Hernandez. Because he has a chance to pass Alan Ashby as the greatest Mormon catcher in baseball history. Because he's a hard-working, decent fielding backstop with a bit of power, which is pretty much all you can ask for from a catcher these days.

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So is Duckworth
And former Royal Wally Joyner.

O.J. Simpson? Not a Mormon.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 4, 2007 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And
Oddly enough, former Royals Alvin Morman and Russ Morman were not Mormon, despite the fact that Russ hailed from Independence, the supposed Garden of Eden for Mormons.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 4, 2007 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think its safe to say
that LaRue won't be making this list

by Freneau on Sep 4, 2007 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

The way the list seems to go
Buck should be in the 70s after this season, no?

by LeoBloom on Sep 4, 2007 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Hardball times
Buck has eight win shares this season so far, that would give him 31 for his Royals career, putting him  68th.

Also, I didn't have Mark Grudzielanek on this list, but after this year, he's probably around #87th or so.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 4, 2007 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Asterik
Buck may still be the second greatest Mormon catcher.  Gotta give Dale Murphy props, he came up as a catcher.

Dane Iorg is the man!

by David Howards Legacy on Sep 4, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Baird failed at many aspects of his job,
he did oversee the construction of a string of historically bad KC teams.  That said, I do think the past three years have shown his management of the Beltran exit to have been one of his finest moments.  Even with Wood gone, Baird did manage to pick up two very decent (perhaps even good) everyday players in the trade.  And both of those players came in with no MLB service time.  This gave KC maximum opportunity to control them during their "cheap" years.

We all know how difficult it is to project minor league players.  It looks like Baird did his job well at least in this instance.

Also, Baird was responsible for drafting Butler, a high school hitter.  Another very tough group to evaluate.  It looks like Baird has another winner there.

Not that I would want Baird back as GM, but I sure wouldn't hate to see him come back as an assistant devoted to evaluating unproven talent.  Baird had his skill set.

by James Quinn on Sep 4, 2007 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Baird is a good scout
He would be an asset to any organization as a scout.  I think he's particularly good at evaluating position players.  He's just not a GM.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 4, 2007 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where is jbracato
with the obligatory slam of Buck?

I was sorta looking forward to seeing that, you know, in a head-scratching kind of way...

by loyal2s dad on Sep 4, 2007 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice
Yes, we are past due for a "DFA that loser!"

by Scott McKinney on Sep 4, 2007 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

First, it's jbrocato
I don't know that I have much left to say, at least until his average drops below .220.

by jbrocato on Sep 4, 2007 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I know the problem
You shouldn't be evaluating a hitter based on his batting average.  In the very least, look at OBP and SLG.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 4, 2007 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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